More about Sourdough

March 8, 2009 at 1:07 pm 3 comments

img_1975smOur whole family has been pretty sick for weeks and I completely neglected the sourdough starter on the counter.  The smell is now pretty strong and the “hooch” on the top (mixture of alcohol and water produced by the starter) is quite dark so I thought about throwing it out.   I decided to research a little more before I got crazy.  After all, sourdough has been resting on counters for much longer than mine in much hotter climates and I’m sure when that was the only way to make bread you didn’t just toss it if you missed a couple days.  I found a discussion about how to tell if your starter is bad and got some pointers there.  I still think my starter is on the verge of too stinky but am “washing” it like one of the writers suggested. 

Mid-week last week I ran out of milled flour and being sick I didn’t have the energy to drag everything out so I just dumped in some sorghum flour I had. That turned the starter a brownish orange color and the hooch produced the next morning was much darker and has been since, I wish I would not have done that.  If I “wash” my sourdough I’m planning to go with half brown rice and half white rice this time and am considering using starch as well.  I think the mixture has been too heavy to produce a good loaf of bread.  I am also very determined not to let it hibernate in the refrigerator until I have come up with a good recipe for bread because I don’t want to spend the time getting it going again.  In my reading I noticed that even with a suspected “bad” starter you can pull a tiny amount out and feed that to keep the same starter going.  Maybe after a bit I will have enough to dry some and we can try sharing it to see if that will work.

A couple of notes:

As I get familiar with my starter I can tell how she is “behaving” and realized that in my climate I needed to switch from using more flour than water back to simply 1:1.  I actually quit measuring and if it looks too thick (lumpy, hard to stir) I add more water if it is too thin I use more flour.  It really is quite friendly and forgiving.  You may have to experiment to get a good “pancake” like consistency but if it doesn’t seem right just try, don’t fret.

I also read that unless you leave it in over 100 degree temps. almost nothing else will outright kill the starter although metal utinsels and container will inhibit yeast growth.

One lady even mentioned putting oatmeal in her starter in a pinch.  I am not suggesting it (also be aware that you must buy certified gluten free oats) but what I’m saying is experimenting can’t hurt.  I just tried using corn starch since I still have not milled flour. 

When in doubt give her a new home.  I was not sure about the strange img_1973smcolor and smell to the liquid so I poured it off this time.  I read that some people always pour it off.  I was in the habit of stirring mine back in and will do so again unless I experience this problem again.  I found a “clean” edge of the bowl to pour the whole thing into a new container.  After removing the hooch I could tell that my starter was not bad, the mixture underneath did not smell as strong and had that yeasty bread smell.  I have high hopes for my “washed” starter now.

A starter kept in the refrigerator is said to only need once a week feeding or even less.  A glass mason jar would be a good container for this kind of storage and then you can pull the starter out the night before you want to use it, immediately feed it and then use it the next day.

For more info here is a Q & A on Sourdough that I found very helpful.

Happy fermenting and keep checking back, I am feeling much better and with the fresh snow outside it’s still baking weather up here in the North!

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  • 1. Crazy Beautiful Gluten Free Sourdough « Blog Schmog  |  March 10, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    [...] water and the freshest flour possible will work just fine for a successful sourdough.  I am still learning about how to keep and bake with sourdough.  You might find that pioneer style pancakes hit the [...]

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  • 2. Erin Jackson  |  September 21, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Okay I have your recipe for the GF starter, but I can’t find the recipe for the bread itself. Do you have one yet? I am dying to make this!

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    • 3. glutenfree4goofs  |  September 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm

      Erin, you are going to be so disappointed! I was never successful with a yeast free version, one that is truly a sourdough sponge but when you add the starter into the liquids in a gf bread recipe it gives you the taste but not authenticity. Let me know if you have more questions I will be glad to help any way I can.

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Many of you have been checking back for results on my sourdough creation. At the moment it is still a science experiment, but a happy, bubbly experiment. Never fear, recipes will be here! I did make a beautiful, moist and delicious loaf of sourdough using yeast and a myriad of other ingredients but I'm still trying to create something more user friendly. Wouldn't it be awesome to have a starter on the counter that you could add 4 things to and have a loaf of bread by dinner? Mmmm! Attempt #1 - rose well but resulted in a dense chewy blob Attempt #2 - rose ok but was thin and lifeless then fell and another dense (not so chewy) blob Attempt #3 - to the dogs! Attempt #4 - A sourdough pancake success see post under what's for breakfast gluten-free goof? Ongoing - I've tried several more times and am going to try a completely different approach on the bread starting this week. (Mar 18). My sourdough is still happy on my counter and it makes great pancakes but it's a lot of work just for pancakes. Keep checking! April Update: She is still kickin and I'm still workin on a yeast free, gluten free sourdough loaf! May Update: My sourdough "pet" has been dried and retired until next baking season. I've traded her in for a hotter model, the BBQ! :)
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